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[gregoryJ]

Tell us what you are trying to do?
I'm trying to display display dynamic content (taken from post forms) on the front end. I'm using ToolSet and Elementor Pro and I'm confused about the process. It seems to have evolved over the last couple of years and while that's great, I'm finding references to views (which is now part of blocks?) and changes to the process of creating a template in elementor which will display dynamic content quite disorientating as a new user.

Is there any documentation that you are following?
I've watched the Custom Types Training Video's, and some videos re: the elementor integration and rear various tutorials and previous answers.

Is there a similar example that we can see?

What is the link to your site?
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[Jamal]

Hello and thank you for contacting the Toolset support.

We are aware that our documentation is not up to date with our new blocks' experience, either from Toolset features perspectives or integration with 3rd party plugins and themes perspective. In fact, not all the features available within Toolset Views are available on Toolset Blocks.

Our documentation team is actively working on whole new documentation regarding blocks and some useful tutorials. We'll publish an article on our blog once it is ready.

Toolset still offers both experiences by activating both editors in Toolset->Settings->General->Editing experience, and by allowing custom post types to use one of the editors or both on per post basis, in the custom post type definition(Toolset->Post Types)

All the available documentation for integration with Elementor is regarding the legacy views editor experience. hidden link

This being, I would like to assure you, that we will do our best to help you work with Toolset and Elementor too. Takes these best practices into account and come back to us if you encounter any issues:
- Elementor templates cannot include a content template directly with a specialized widget. Elementor only allows to insert views with the Toolset View widget. You can still include a content template using shortcodes.
- In the blocks experience, we cannot create a view directly from the Toolset menu, it is only available from the block editor(when editing a page/post/content template/etc.).
- An Elementor Pro template cannot be inserted inside a Toolset content template. It can only be inserted directly inside a view's loop.
- If you need to create a view, without going through the blocks editor, you will need to activate the legacy editing experience in Toolset settings.
- Elementor templates for single posts can still use the dynamic fields and pull Toolset custom fields.

I hope this answers your questions. Let us know if you have any other questions or if you are encountering any issues while building your Toolset website.

[gregoryJ]

Hi Jamal,

Thanks for the quick and detailed response! Especially since my opening description is a bit vague. I appreciate the help here as a new user.

I'm open to suggestions, basically I'm hopeful to learn all the tricks that ToolSet enables within wordpress, my project needs ToolSets full capability and I'm open to achieving this in any way possible.

So far I have attempted to incorporate dynamic content with elementor pro, struggled, and tried to achieve the same with gutenberg, and struggled, read fairly extensively, realised that simply having all of the plugins that make ToolSet in its current form active may be an issue, and that perhaps I have an issue within the access permissions (ToolSet access), I have ended up with a 'white screen of death' having opened the 'page with the gutenberg attempt' using elementor.

I'm open to a learning curve and very aware that I'm probably making some very silly mistakes. But very keen to learn what appears to be a fundamentally brilliant product.

Should I abandon elementor for a bit and learn it first using gutenberg? Or as you say above revert to the legacy views approach (looking for the path of least resistance), elementor is great but I'll take function before form every time!!

Thanks in advance,
Greg

[Jamal]

Hi Greg, thanks for the kind feedback.

Personally I would not suggest mixing Gutenberg and Elementor without going through the Official way from Elementor, check this article, and the Elementor blocks plugin.
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- https://wordpress.org/plugins/block-builder/

Toolset is moving forward to a full Gutenberg block experience, but as of now, we still have some features to implement before retiring entirely Toolset Views.

But, If you desire or need to use Elementor, I would suggest using the legacy editing experience, and even that has some limitations, that are not so limiting 🙂
- An Elementor Pro template cannot be inserted inside a Toolset content template. It can only be inserted directly inside a view's loop.
- You cannot assign a content template and Elementor template to the same custom post, either one or the other. This actually is not a limitation, as both(Assigned content template and Elementor single post template) tries to do the same, display a single post page.

Regarding Access, maybe there was a configuration mistake or maybe a bug, we'll need to check it and analyze it before deciding. If you can tell what are the steps that you have had done to get the blank page, I'll give it a try on my local install to check, or I can check your installation.

Should I abandon Elementor for a bit and learn it first using Gutenberg?

I am not sure what to say here, I will likely be biased toward our solution, but I'll say, that Gutenberg is still in its infancy, it will be better to test it for your needs before Switching completely. From our side, either using this or that, we'll still do our best to help you with any issues and we'll be pleased to answer your questions.

All the best,
Jamal