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I am trying to resolve an issue with slow loading pages. WordPress gave me a notice on the site that I needed a cache. My hosting platform helped me install the W3 Total Cache and then told me to install Cloudflare. I have been trying to resolve the issues of making W3 TC and Cloudflare work together and then to make Toolset and Cloudflare work together.
But here's my question: If I am going to exempt Toolset, do I even need these other items (i.e. W3 Total Cache and Cloudflare)? The slow loading pages ARE the pages with Toolset views on them.
Basically except for a few pages with some static content on them, my site consists of several pages of filtered views of the same set of Classmates Custom Post Type info (lots of pictures).
But I am having a lot of trouble getting those page views to load--so can you give me some solutions to work toward?
I don't want to give you the link to the site just yet--but I will later if you need it. Right now, the pages on my menu that have the views on them were made with WP Grid--because I never could get Toolset to work when I put the site together about 2 years ago. I am trying again and want to get rid of WP Grid. But things are not going well on the new pages (not on the menu yet) and everything I try leads to another issue I have to resolve.
I use OceanWP as my theme.
Is there any documentation that you are following?
Cloudflare help pages. Toolset-Cloudflare help pages.
Thanks for responding. I actually had read one of the pages-- https://toolset.com/faq/how-to-use-optimization-plugins-with-toolset/-- and this is what prompted my original question--Do I even need W3TC or Cloudflare if Toolset wants me to exempt their resources from these plugins? The page advises:
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Toolset plugins are optimized by design and load resources in an efficient way. We don’t recommend optimizing Toolset resource files listed on this page. Doing so will not bring any significant performance gains but might cause different problems like issues after updating Toolset plugins. Even if you exclude all Toolset resources from optimization, Toolset functionality may still break if the optimization plugin modifies dependencies such as jQuery. In this case, you would need to disable the optimization entirely.
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1) So should I just deactivate/remove W3TC and Cloudflare and work only with the Toolset cache system?
2) Re:https://toolset.com/documentation/legacy-features/views-plugin/how-to-use-views-parametric-search-on-large-sites/
I am not actually doing a query on the page. This is a site for High school alumni, so I am just trying to display the pictures of about 400 high school alumni and a bit of info below the pic (I am using pagination--so about 35 pics per page). Once this page is created it will not be updated very often. But I cannot get it to load very fast at all when I access it, so it doesn't ever appear to cache. And I have another page that filters this custom post type and it won't complete loading at all. It just hangs after about 12 pictures.
1) So should I just deactivate/remove W3TC and Cloudflare and work only with the Toolset cache system?
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Actually - its solely your decision, we cant say much here.
2) Re:https://toolset.com/documentation/legacy-features/views-plugin/how-to-use-views-parametric-search-on-large-sites/
I am not actually doing a query on the page. This is a site for High school alumni, so I am just trying to display the pictures of about 400 high school alumni and a bit of info below the pic (I am using pagination--so about 35 pics per page). Once this page is created it will not be updated very often. But I cannot get it to load very fast at all when I access it, so it doesn't ever appear to cache. And I have another page that filters this custom post type and it won't complete loading at all. It just hangs after about 12 pictures.
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When you have images on your page it depends on what size of images you load and how you are loading those. Also, it depends also on your server configuration (memory, cashing, server processing capacity, internet speed) as well as number of other factors such as how complex your data structure is.
Thanks again for responding. The link you listed provided the best explanation for many of the issues I have been having--my problem was I was looking at the slow times on the admin pages and I should have been looking at the public facing pages as a regular user. The page does load--the loading takes about 13 sec--not great, but not like the admin page which takes over a minute. So, I can call that resolved.
I keep having several issues, however--and if I need to start another thread for this one, let me know.
I switched back to infinite scrolling and it seems to be working ok, but my image settings are no longer working. ) They were set to a custom size (145x185) but lost that setting at some point. When I try to reset it, I get the message "Missing information for resizing the image." I found this Toolset link but it says the issue has been resolved--so what is the solution now? https://toolset.com/errata/missing-information-for-resizing-the-image-error-in-image-block-when-using-custom-size/
Yes, May I kindly ask you to open a new ticket with every new question you may have. This will help other users searching on the forum as well as help us to write correct problem resolution summery for the original question reported with this ticket.
Thanks for your help Minesh. The information about the differences in page loading times by a regular viewer and by the admin were the most helpful in letting me know that I was not really having an issue--it just seemed like it (even when I "viewed" the page--because I was still logged in as admin).
