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[Resolved] Toolset Blocks issues

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Last updated by jesseH-3 4 years, 9 months ago.

Assisted by: Shane.

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#1529253

Hi, Shane is out today for a national holiday and will return tomorrow to continue assisting you.

#1530561

Shane
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Hi Jesse,

I've gotten some more information on this one.

What my team has told me is that this is an expected behavior if your archive was built exclusively with the block editor. Meaning when you create the custom archive you are directed to the block editor instead of the classic editor first.

In your case I can see that all your archives were created with the Block Editor.

The only way this tab is accessible is if you created your archive using the classic editor first.

I hope I was able to provide you with some clarity on this issue.

Thanks,
Shane

#1530975

I'm not sure I understand. You say "you are directed to the block editor instead of the classic editor." I'm not trying to access the classic editor, I'm trying to access the Document tab. I should be able to switch between the Block tab (to edit settings for the specific block) and the Document tab (to edit overall settings for the archive). I need to access the Document tab to change settings for the page title area (as this is part of my theme).
Should I recreate my archives using the classic editor? If yes, please provide exact steps on how I should do this (i.e. what settings to change and in what order). Thank you.

#1530999

Shane
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Hi Jesse,

As mentioned this is by design so you wouldn't be able to access the documents tab.

I see where you mentioned that you would want to edit the setting of the archive but this is done from the Block tab when you select the archive loop.

This area contains all the information for the loop such as the post selection etc.
"I need to access the Document tab to change settings for the page title area"

You wouldn't need the documents tab for this because your theme would automatically add the archive title. If it doesn't then you should be able to add a block for the archive title and then move it above the loop.

Also the documents tab will only have these settings. See Screenshot

Thanks,
Shane

#1536097

You're correct, I don't think the Document tab is actually the problem. Going back to my original issue:

3. I want to hide the page title on my archive pages but cannot figure out how to do so. In my theme (Themify Ultra) I can usually do so within the Themify Custom Panel, one of the advanced panels that is shown in the post editing screen, below the blocks area. It looks like the Toolset archive editing screen omits all custom panels, which I can understand since I assume there may be conflicts. So, what is the recommended way to control the title on my archive pages?

This also brings to mind another problem I have been having, wherein I'd like to do a banner/cover image at the top of these archive pages, basically replacing the title area. I've tried to do this (by adding a custom field to the category that defines a banner/cover image specific to that category) but the highest point I can insert it on the page is between the search filters and the page content.

So, do you have any insight as to how I can control these archive pages outside of the content area? I used to be able to control these items using Layouts, but seem to have lost that control with Blocks.

#1536183

Shane
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Hi Jesse,

In response to the Page title on the archive page.
Normally this is hidden with the use of some custom css.

.page-title{
display: none;
}

Secondly no you wouldn't be able to add the banner outside of the content area. This is due to our blocks plugin acting only within the confines of the post loop.

Given that you can hide the title with the CSS you can add your above the search filter. You should be able to drag the banner above the archive loop.

Thanks,
Shane

#1536189

Okay, I was now able to drag the banner above the filter area (this must have changed with the recent updates, because it did not work this way before).
Hiding the title with CSS is far from an ideal solution. I highly suggest Toolset fixes this issue and adds the ability to control parts of the page outside the content area, or people are not going to like adopting Blocks. It's like a step backwards currently from what I was able to do with Layouts.

#1536193
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Edited to add: while the banner (shortcode block) is now showing above the filter, it is still within the search area. I'd really like to be able to get this above/outside of the Archive Search section.

#1536203

Sorry, to clarify: on the front-end, the shortcode block is appearing above the filters. That problem is solved. But as you'll see in the block hierarchy, I am not able to drag it above the filter area. It's fine for now, as it appears correctly on the front-end, but this is something Toolset should look into improving. Thanks for your help.