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[Resolved] Redundant Archives Layouts and WordPress Archives

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Problem: Why must I use WordPress Archives and also set up Archive Layouts? Are these both necessary?

Solution:
The WordPress Archive feature was around in Views long before the Layouts plugin came along, and it's still required to show the relevant results on an archive page. Without Layouts plugin active, this feature still works the same way - you set up a Loop that displays each relevant result.

With the Layouts plugin active, you can create a Layout design for an archive page using the drag and drop interface to set up rows and columns of cells. However, you won't be able to control the results display on that archive page until you insert a WordPress Archive cell where you can design the Loop Output. So the two items work together when Layouts is active. Layouts is used to design the wrapping container, and WordPress Archives are used to construct the loop of results (and filters, if you choose to use them).

Relevant Documentation:
https://toolset.com/documentation/user-guides/normal-vs-archive-views/
https://toolset.com/documentation/getting-started-with-toolset/customize-post-archives/

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Last updated by tomG-8 7 years ago.

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#584862
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(This is probably a low-priority request. Everything's working -- it's just confusing.)

I set up an archives for a custom post type by making a Layout ("Layout for Endorsements archive" in the attached graphic.)

Later, learned about the WordPress Archives feature, and set up another one ("Accomplishments archive").

Now, the two archives -- which seem to be functionally similar -- appear on different admin pages. Only one shows up on my Toolset Dashboard. And I'm not sure how they're different, e.g. whether there are features only available through one method.

I don't really need help for my own sake, as they seem to work fine. But perhaps either:

1) Clarify the difference in documentation, or
2) Merge the two methods (maybe by getting rid of the redundant "Wordpress archives" feature?).

I'd appreciate a short clarification, just to satisfy my curiosity. Thanks!

#585588

Hi, I see how this can be confusing. The WordPress Archive feature was around in Views long before the Layouts plugin came along, and it's still required to show the relevant results on an archive page. Without Layouts plugin active, this feature still works the same way - you set up a Loop that displays each relevant result.

With the Layouts plugin active, you can create a Layout design for an archive page using the drag and drop interface to set up rows and columns of cells. However, you won't be able to control the results display on that archive page until you insert a WordPress Archive cell where you can design the Loop Output. So the two items work together when Layouts is active. Layouts is used to design the wrapping container, and WordPress Archives are used to construct the loop of results (and filters, if you choose to use them).

#585898

Thanks for the clarification! I had a hunch that one method was there for historical reasons.

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