[Resolved] Confusion with using Divi opposed to Toolsets Layouts with login

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[Jas]

I am trying to Create a login page for my contributors (secretary) to be able to add new custom post type entries from the front end and then edit her entries. I did this very very easily with the Ultimatemembers plugin, but I've like Toolset in every other way I've used it so I'm switching over, and I'd like as much as possible to be done with Toolset in order to eliminate unnecessary plugin bloat.
However I seem to be confused about certain terms as Toolset uses Layouts, but I'm building everything with Divi.
Firstly, following https://toolset.com/documentation/user-guides/cred-training-course/part-7-building-account-page-login-form/, I created the My accounts page and I can view that page and it shows the user resources/recourse:

I think the confusion is maybe in regards to using the Content Layout Editor. Not a problem in this particular version of the my account page. Problem is halfway down the tutorial at" Displaying a login form to visitors" Now it says Navigate to Layouts. Except that I'm not using Layouts, so what does this mean for me with Divi? Initially I thought it meant I needed to create a new page and then>Fields and Views>Login Form.
But then under Toolset Access>Post Groups>Logged-in Users, when I go to edit guest row and Select Content Template Layout, (It doesn't say Show Template Layout exactly as in Tutorial) it doesn't exactly show the Login Form page that I created, it does show a Member Login Prompt (which isn't the Login Page I previously created in the above steps) So when I go to hidden link I get a login form that I don't think is the one I created; , and it does in fact work when I go to login, but it doesn't have the "Lost User Password" below it.
So somewhere I'm missing how to link the My Account Page to the Login page Using Divi, and maybe I'm not supposed to build the Login page in a standard page but a Content Template or where?

thanks for you help!

[Minesh]

Hello. Thank you for contacting the Toolset support.

But then under Toolset Access>Post Groups>Logged-in Users, when I go to edit guest row and Select Content Template Layout, (It doesn't say Show Template Layout exactly as in Tutorial) it doesn't exactly show the Login Form page that I created, it does show a Member Login Prompt (which isn't the Login Page I previously created in the above steps) So when I go to hidden link I get a login form that I don't think is the one I created; ,
==> Well - as you are not using Layouts, with Access post group "What to display for single-posts when there is no read permission" - you will see the radio button with option "Show Content Template" and once you select that radio, select the content template which have the content which you want to display.

[Jas]

Right, this is precisely what I did in fact do, however, I assume I must have missed a step somewhere before this as I have not created a content template to begin with. Was I supposed to create the Login page via a Content Template then I take it?

Again, the area of the documentation I think i'm confused at is: Displaying a login form to visitors" Here it says "Navigate to Layouts." Except that I'm not using Layouts, so what does this mean for me with Divi? Initially I thought it meant I needed to create a new page and then>Fields and Views>Login Form.

So are you saying that at this juncture, I should have created a Content Template? Is Layouts what is otherwise used to create content template? When I've created a content template in the past, it wasn't using layouts and herein lies my confusion I believe.

[Minesh]

Again, the area of the documentation I think i'm confused at is: Displaying a login form to visitors"
==> Do you want to display the login form?

Here it says "Navigate to Layouts." Except that I'm not using Layouts, so what does this mean for me with Divi? Initially I thought it meant I needed to create a new page and then>Fields and Views>Login Form.
=> Yes - because that Doc is prepared using Layouts plugin. Yes, It should be the same, do you see in tutorial, where the login form is added?

So are you saying that at this juncture, I should have created a Content Template? Is Layouts what is otherwise used to create content template?
==> Yes - as you are not using the Layout, create content template and assign it to your page.

Rather, if you can tell me what is your expected flow and when you want to display the login form and when not and share access details, I will help you to setup such structure.

Please share problem URL with access details and exact flow what should happen and what should be restricted when and what should be accessible when.

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[Minesh]

*sorry, I assumed this was obvious. Yes, I do. I want to link to it from navigation menu of the footer.
==> Well - to which menu you want to link to footer, I do not see any login link in footer menu.

*Yes, I have read the entire Part 7 tutorial through several times. But what I'm saying is that someone who doesn't know Layouts, isn't going to understand that Layouts means Content Template. The documentation could use clarification on this I think as this took me a long time to understand on my own.
=> Layout does not mean content template but when you have Layouts, the options in the popup when you try to set permissions using post field group from access control will be changed. If you are using Content template, if will allow you to chose content template, if you are using Layout, it will allow you to set Layout.

As I tried to explain you in my previous post:

as you are not using Layouts, with Access post group "What to display for single-posts when there is no read permission" - you will see the radio button with option "Show Content Template" and once you select that radio, select the content template which have the content which you want to display.

Also as I asked before, in the Content template, can I not use the Divi Builders beautiful login module in place of merely entering the login short-code via the Fields and Views (since i'm not familiar with Layouts) and somehow have it link up to all the other pages/forms the same way? Or do I just have to use the text editor in Content template and Toolsets short-code and have that stylized via CSS? (I will attach a photo of what the Divi Builder can do for login forms really easily).
==> I never tried to use Divi Builder login module but yes, you should try to add it to your content template and check if that works for you.

Here is the doc how you can use Divi Builder with Toolset to design content template:
=> https://toolset.com/documentation/recommended-themes/toolset-divi-integration/create-templates-for-custom-post-types-with-divi-builder-and-toolset/

*So what I hope to do is have my contributors be able to have access to a login link in the footer navigation menu. (Currently because I've hidden "My Accounts in Post Groups", the footer nav doesn't display it until I enter the URL for the My Accounts Login.
==> I see that currently when I try to access the account page: hidden link , its displaying the login form. that is correct.

Then once logged in, I need them to have access to and be able to edit their custom post type posts that they will have created, and of course add new ones. So for example, I have an Ingredient Types custom post types. They need to be able to add new posts and edit exisiting. Same with other custom post types.
==> Yes - you can use CRED forms to create or Edit the content.

After they reset their password, I'd like for the email that is sent to them that says password is reset, click here to login, to take them to My Account login opposed to the WP standard login (which doesn't get them to their My Account (logged-in) page, but rather the WP dashboard which will confuse them.
==> CRED does not currently offer a reset password form. Toolset offers two shortcode:
- To display reset password form
=> https://toolset.com/documentation/user-guides/views-shortcodes/#wpv-reset-password-form

- Forget password form:
=> https://toolset.com/documentation/user-guides/views-shortcodes/#wpv-forgot-password-form

we offer above Views shortcode creates a link to the standard WordPress form. You may be able to add styles to the standard form, or you can use another 3rd party plugin to create a more customized forgot/reset password form.