[Geschlossen] Toolset is the issue

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[davidD-19]

I am trying to:
Like the last 20 years I just try to do my job.

Link to a page where the issue can be seen:
These are now a few. ALL my websites are causing problems or were taken away from Toolset as fast as possible.
My last 24h... hidden link
This installation, like all others, has problems writing the page, assigning layouts, etc.. Every time I deactivate Toolset everything is ok.

This installation, like all others, has problems writing the page, assigning layouts, etc.. Every time I deactivate Toolset everything is ok.

EVERY of my development pages are broken since 5.5 and toolset blocks are broken. I now have dozens of installations with toolset. Really big websites run with toolset because of me. But I don't want what I went through the last weeks anymore!

I say goodbye. Toolset has become an absolute catastrophe. I have no problem with WP-Blocks but why am I the test dummy?

I don't pay much money for a trial version!

Now come from you. The old approach still works... Support blabla. You have kicked the base of so many people just into the barrel. The documentation, the bootstarp theme etc. all gone or hidden.

Then toolset blocks. Again, I would like it if we get to the point where I distribute my blocks headless via the API... But we are miles away from that.

Currently nothing is compatible at all. And yes, a lot of it screws up WordPress itself, but you are so stupid as to betray your reliability for a fucking marketing gag.

Have you ever tried to create anything with toolset blocks? Gutenberg just sucks from a user's point of view. Every other PageBuilder (I've been through them all) does it better. No real drag&drop of blocks. Mega UI elements in the middle of the screen etc. etc.

My stack was until today...
Astra, BeaverBuilder, Toolset
or the Bootstrap Custom version, _s, BS4, jQuery, Toolset

I spent many hours on this today. And suddenly the BeaverThemer could not deliver the templates. With one category it works, with the other not... I stupidly deleted everything and can't reproduce the error anymore.

The website
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The error messages for this
213525x [01-Sep-2020 00:14:56 UTC] PHP Notice: A non well formed numeric value encountered in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200701/wp-content/plugins/wp-views/embedded/inc/wpv-query-debug.class.php on line 384
... And so many more.

Here my try to include toolset blocks in my processes. Again several hours wasted.
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For me Toolset was a reliable tool. The current state is not acceptable. And I can't get away from the Gutenberg shit to ACF at least...

I don't understand how you can kick the ass of longtime customers like this.

I don't want (until you can work with it...) a Gutenberg in my processes. And yet the toolset is changing more and more to harassment. Unnecessary CSS is loaded etc.

The content templates can no longer be deleted. The former BeaverBuilder layouts no longer work Why?

I have so many problems with Toolset!

It is not just an installation. But I also have to have it clean and start from scratch. WITHOUT TOOLSET

I could really cry

Yeah, right. There is a support. And I can come to you every time because of the problems... But I am quite able to sort out my own problems. And I see what happens here. And Toolset is a multiplier. I have lost a lot of money because of the Gutenberg Toolset blocks bullshit... What is wrong with you guys.

I am off. If I could have my money back. Toolset is no longer needed.

Absolute impudence.

[Luo Yang Supporter Languages: Englisch (English ) Vereinfachtes Chinesisch (简体中文 ) Timezone: Asia/Hong_Kong (GMT+08:00)]

Hello,

There are lots of questions in this thread.

I am trying to answer them one by one:
1) Yes, we have already moved to WordPress built-in Blocks editor(Gutenberg), see our blog post:
https://toolset.com/2019/11/toolset-views-becoming-toolset-blocks/
If you don't like the Gutenberg editor, you can still use classic editor to create Views and content template.
I have checked it in your website, you had already using below options:
Dashboard-> Toolset-> Settings, you had already using below options:
- Editing experience: Show only the legacy interface for designing with shortcodes
- Editor to use for Content Templates: Classic Editor
So you will be able to use classic editor

Q2) The content templates can no longer be deleted.

There is only one content template in your website, which is assigned with a post view, you can try these:
Edit the post view "Prospekte Downloads":
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in section "Loop Editor", click button "Loop Editor", in step 2 "Choose fields", disable option "Use a Content Template to group the fields in this loop", see screenshot step-2.JPG, then you will be able to remove that content template.

Q3) The former BeaverBuilder layouts no longer work Why?
Where and how can I see the problem? please provide detail steps to see the same problem.
And both BeaverBuilder and Blocks editor are page builders, it is not recommended to design the same page/post with both page builders, it will conduct unexpected result, I suggest you follow our document to use Toolset with Beaver Builder
https://toolset.com/course-lesson/using-toolset-with-beaver-builder/

Q4) PHP Notice: A non well formed numeric value encountered in...
How and where can I see the problem? How to trigger the problem in your website, please provide detail steps to duplicate the same problem, thanks

[davidD-19]

Actually I had no questions. But after.

Why am I suddenly the test dummy.
Or can I have my money back.

I think it is nice that you try to solve the problems. You are also really good and you like to have every problem solved. My frustration does not go against you personally!

But I think in the meantime my problems can't be solved anymore because Tollset has made decisions that cause me problems in my daily work.

I have been building websites based on Toolset for years now. There should be over 100 by now. Example - hidden link

So you could say I have a lot of experience. Also I was so stupid and tried to develop a (classic) toolset based theme for a big listing. hidden link
And here you have deleted all documentation. Toolset doesn't want you to develop bootstrap-classical themes anymore... and Toolset Blocks must be equipped with bootstrap first...

I also wrote clearly that it is not about that I don't like Gutenberg. It is much more about it not working or too many errors occur.

I also criticize the Mongo UI. Toolset-Blocks has also failed there. Please have a look at other Gutenberg extensions... There are smart approaches. Tabs in the Block Sidebar ...

So answers like
If you don't like the Gutenberg editor, you can still use classic editor to create views and content template.

You can save yourself. I know that. I also know how to set up my damn toolset.

And still I have massive problems since a few weeks. And yes, I don't come running to you with it right away... In my example hidden link there are no more errors. I have worked almost 20 hours on the website when I started the single category archives cannot be overwritten with the Beaver-Themer. I use exclusively the BB-Themer the templates... AND yet Toolset (Content-Templates) has been interfering for some time and generates errors.

BUT THEN I DELETED EVERYTHING. I have no time to contact the support etc. I just make it new.

So I can go the classical way but thanks to Gutenberg in Toolset so much changes that I am affected by it again!

So I know to hell to use the classic editor. Or what I have to do in the meantime to work Gutenberg freely.

In my second example the same crap... hidden link

Here completely without BeaverBuilder. Here I have toolset blocks in an Astra custom layout. First everything is great... Then it starts that the styling is no longer loaded...

It was similar with Danube.

So I gave in to the Gutenberg, Toolset-Blocks print and tried to work with it... My first attempt didn't work at all...
But now I have to make progress and I can't spend 5 days looking for solutions.

As far as the Gutenberg is concerned, this is no problem. But I have dozens of legacy toolset installations that are causing me problems now.

Q2) Also here I have deleted everything at some point... Finally

Q3) That's exactly what it is
In all my installations I use views... And at the output editor of a view there was the button - BeaverBuidler... This one is gone! I also go to the settings, set everything to BeaverBuilder show/ use... I go to the view. NOTHING. If I go back to the settings, they are reset. lol

STILL. Since Toolset-Blocks there are VERY MUCH problems with Toolset. And this just then when you go the classical way. But this corresponds to my way of working which is currently completely disturbed.

Q4) Also here I have deleted everything. The errors are no longer there

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I just want to be able to do my work in peace. Toolset is just the software that ruins this for me. So I go the ACF way and I have peace.

Actually I am really a fan of Toolset. And yes Gutenberg, toolset blocks are the future. And yet I (like BeaverBuilder) expect clean and robust software.

But with Toolset I'm the asshole who pays the change to Gutenberg with his working time. A shit test dummy...

[davidD-19]

And please excuse my English. A lot of things have been translated by an AI.
It is even more frustrating when you are not understood. 🙁

[davidD-19]

Ok, let's start the topic differently.
I have completely rebuilt my Danube WordPress installation. I have only brought everything else to life. Astra Pro, BeaverBuilder + Themer + Ultimate

After I activate Toolset I get the screen taped. These are my current experiences! Toolset rocks (not)

Deprecated: Unparenthesized `a ? b : c ? d : e` is deprecated. Use either `(a ? b : c) ? d : e` or `a ? b : (c ? d : e)` in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/toolset/toolset-common/lib/enlimbo.forms.class.php on line 930
Notice: Undefined index: changelog in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/otgs/installer/includes/class-wp-installer.php on line 980
Notice: Undefined index: version in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/otgs/installer/includes/class-wp-installer.php on line 980
Notice: Undefined index: changelog in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/otgs/installer/includes/class-wp-installer.php on line 980
Notice: Undefined index: version in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/otgs/installer/includes/class-wp-installer.php on line 980
Notice: Undefined index: changelog in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/otgs/installer/includes/class-wp-installer.php on line 980
Notice: Undefined index: version in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/otgs/installer/includes/class-wp-installer.php on line 980
Notice: Trying to access array offset on value of type null in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/otgs/installer/includes/class-installer-theme.php on line 565
Notice: Trying to access array offset on value of type null in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/otgs/installer/includes/class-installer-theme.php on line 565
Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/toolset/toolset-common/lib/enlimbo.forms.class.php:930) in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-includes/functions.php on line 6270
Notice: Trying to access array offset on value of type null in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/otgs/installer/includes/class-installer-theme.php on line 565
Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/toolset/toolset-common/lib/enlimbo.forms.class.php:930) in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-admin/includes/misc.php on line 1310
Notice: Trying to access array offset on value of type null in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/otgs/installer/includes/class-installer-theme.php on line 565
Notice: Trying to access array offset on value of type null in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/otgs/installer/includes/class-installer-theme.php on line 565
Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/toolset/toolset-common/lib/enlimbo.forms.class.php:930) in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-admin/admin-header.php on line 9
Notice: Trying to access array offset on value of type null in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/otgs/installer/includes/class-installer-theme.php on line 565
Notice: Trying to access array offset on value of type null in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/otgs/installer/includes/class-installer-theme.php on line 565
Deprecated: implode(): Passing glue string after array is deprecated. Swap the parameters in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/toolset/toolset-common/utility/condition/theme/layouts-support/native/available.php on line 29

And the debug.log
[02-Sep-2020 00:38:06 UTC] PHP Notice: Trying to access array offset on value of type null in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/otgs/installer/includes/class-installer-theme.php on line 565
[02-Sep-2020 00:38:06 UTC] PHP Notice: Trying to access array offset on value of type null in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/otgs/installer/includes/class-installer-theme.php on line 565
[02-Sep-2020 00:38:06 UTC] PHP Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/otgs/installer/includes/class-installer-theme.php:565) in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-includes/functions.php on line 6270
[02-Sep-2020 00:38:06 UTC] PHP Notice: Trying to access array offset on value of type null in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/otgs/installer/includes/class-installer-theme.php on line 565
[02-Sep-2020 00:38:06 UTC] PHP Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/otgs/installer/includes/class-installer-theme.php:565) in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-admin/includes/misc.php on line 1310
[02-Sep-2020 00:38:06 UTC] PHP Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/otgs/installer/includes/class-installer-theme.php:565) in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-admin/admin-header.php on line 9
[02-Sep-2020 00:38:06 UTC] PHP Notice: Trying to access array offset on value of type null in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/otgs/installer/includes/class-installer-theme.php on line 565
[02-Sep-2020 00:38:06 UTC] PHP Notice: Trying to access array offset on value of type null in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/otgs/installer/includes/class-installer-theme.php on line 565

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The next error message when activating

Warning: Declaration of Installer_Upgrader_Skins::feedback($string) should be compatible with WP_Upgrader_Skin::feedback($string, ...$args) in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/otgs/installer/includes/class-installer-upgrader-skins.php on line 26
[02-Sep-2020 00:39:27 UTC] PHP Warning: Declaration of Installer_Upgrader_Skins::feedback($string) should be compatible with WP_Upgrader_Skin::feedback($string, ...$args) in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/otgs/installer/includes/class-installer-upgrader-skins.php on line 26
[02-Sep-2020 00:39:36 UTC] PHP Warning: Declaration of Installer_Upgrader_Skins::feedback($string) should be compatible with WP_Upgrader_Skin::feedback($string, ...$args) in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/otgs/installer/includes/class-installer-upgrader-skins.php on line 26
[02-Sep-2020 00:39:41 UTC] PHP Warning: Creating default object from empty value in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/otgs/installer/includes/upgrade/class-otgs-installer-upgrade-response.php on line 69

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And it goes on... I put on my first cpt and sit in front of a white screen with the message

Deprecated: array_key_exists(): Using array_key_exists() on objects is deprecated. Use isset() or property_exists() instead in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/toolset/types/embedded/classes/class.wpcf-post-types.php on line 471
Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/toolset/types/embedded/classes/class.wpcf-post-types.php:471) in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-includes/pluggable.php on line 1296
Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/toolset/types/embedded/classes/class.wpcf-post-types.php:471) in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-includes/pluggable.php on line 1299

[02-Sep-2020 00:58:07 UTC] PHP Deprecated: array_key_exists(): Using array_key_exists() on objects is deprecated. Use isset() or property_exists() instead in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/toolset/types/embedded/classes/class.wpcf-post-types.php on line 471
[02-Sep-2020 00:58:07 UTC] PHP Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/toolset/types/embedded/classes/class.wpcf-post-types.php:471) in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-includes/pluggable.php on line 1296
[02-Sep-2020 00:58:07 UTC] PHP Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-content/plugins/types/vendor/toolset/types/embedded/classes/class.wpcf-post-types.php:471) in /usr/www/users/danubf/wp-200901/wp-includes/pluggable.php on line 1299

I get the message that I cannot use the slug??? But the cpt was created...
The story continues...

[Waqar Supporter Languages: Englisch (English ) Timezone: Asia/Karachi (GMT+05:00)]

Hi David,

Luo is on a holiday today, so I'll be following up on this ticket.

The feedback and suggestions that we receive are important to us as they help us improve and grow in the right direction. Toolset plugin releases undergo rigorous manual and automated testing, but I'm sure you'll agree and just as with any other software, due to a wide range of possible combinations of usage requirements, server environments, interaction with third-party themes, and plugins, there will always be cases, which will be reported by the actual users.

For this reason, I'll request to please share any future issues or concerns, with us through this support forum so that they can be resolved accordingly.

As for notices and warnings from your last message, I've performed some research and most of them shouldn't be showing with the latest WordPress and Toolset plugins.

The admin access details from the start of this thread no longer seem to work, so if you could share temporary admin login details again, I'll be in a better position to see how everything is set up and collect the server environment information so that these can reproduced on a test website and then reported to the development team.

Note: I've set your next reply as private.

regards,
Waqar

[Waqar Supporter Languages: Englisch (English ) Timezone: Asia/Karachi (GMT+05:00)]

Hi David,

Thank you for sharing the admin access details.

> Are these tickets posted in the forum? What is that. I would like my privacy... I understand that you do not want to explain every problem x times but I was not aware of this. I do not want that!

Yes, the tickets created on our technical support forum are public, but you can always contact us to make certain messages private or get specific info retracted.

From the records, I found you have 2 other forum tickets with us:
( https://toolset.com/de/forums/users/davidd-19/ )

https://toolset.com/de/forums/topic/toolset-map-google-maps-optin/
https://toolset.com/de/forums/topic/i-want-to-create-a-directory-listing/

Please let me know if you would like to make any information from these tickets, private/retracted.

> To my problems. Please take a look at my latest problem.
- Every time I create a CPT the following message appears

> During my testing and research I found that the warning message "Deprecated: array_key_exists():.." has already been reported for PHP 7.4 and we have an internal ticket to fix this in future versions.
( your server has PHP 7.4.9 too )

I can understand that a notice or warning message like this can be inconvenient, but the good news is that this deprecation notice shouldn't affect the actual functionality and the CPT creation operation would still complete in the background and you'll be able to use those CPTs, as normal.

> The form with the access data has two fields "Username" and no password...
- Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I couldn't see this on the default English forum ( screenshot: hidden link ), but it could be related to the translation used for the German language. I've passed this on for further investigation to the concerned team.

regards,
Waqar

[davidD-19]

I've now downgraded PHP to 7.3.

I have the next problem that confirms my main thesis. You cannot work with toolset blocks at the moment.

Screenshot attached

[Waqar Supporter Languages: Englisch (English ) Timezone: Asia/Karachi (GMT+05:00)]

Hi David,

That is a very strange output and during testing on my own website with the same "Post Carousel" block from the "Ultimate Addons for Gutenberg" plugin, I couldn't reproduce this.
( tested with the latest versions of Types + Blocks + Ultimate Addons for Gutenberg + Astra theme )

Screenshot: hidden link

Do I have your permission to install the Duplicator plugin ( https://wordpress.org/plugins/duplicator/ ) and download a clone/snapshot of your website?
( ref: https://toolset.com/faq/provide-supporters-copy-site/ )

regards,
Waqar